CINEMARKETER · CLOSER PLAYBOOK

The 3.0 Sales Script

Everything highlighted in yellow is your line — say it. Grey boxes are coaching, not spoken. Tap any red n to jump to Why We Ask — the reason behind the question. Tap any ๐ŸŽฏ Coach link for the real-world fix in the Coaching Corner tab. If you don't know why you're asking, you won't close.

๐Ÿ‘‹ Start Here โ€” How to Use This

Brand new to sales, or new to this offer? Read this once and you'll know exactly what to do. No experience required.

What this is: your complete playbook for a sales call — the call where you turn a local business owner (a roofer, HVAC company, med spa, etc.) into a paying client for your video-ad service.

The three tabs up top:

  • ๐Ÿ“‹ The Script โ€” everything happens here. Word-for-word what to say, top to bottom. Yellow = say it out loud. Grey boxes are coaching for your eyes only. And blue boxes are where you jot the prospect's answers as they talk โ€” those numbers auto-feed the fit calculator that appears right after Discovery.
  • ๐Ÿ“– Why We Ask โ€” tap any little red number (like 1) in the script to learn why that question works. Read these until the questions feel natural in your mouth.
  • ๐ŸŽฏ Coaching Corner โ€” the exact things that trip up new closers (and the fix for each), pulled from real coaching. Skim it before your first few calls.

No more juggling a separate cheat sheet โ€” the form is built right into the script now. Fill the blue boxes as you go, and by the end of Discovery you'll see whether this client is a profitable, good fit. It auto-saves; hit New Call (the bar below) to wipe it clean for the next prospect.

How a call flows โ€” just follow the script top to bottom. In plain English, the phases are:

Break the iceExplain how the call worksAsk questions & jot answersCheck the fitShow how you'd helpLock in full buy-in (1–10)Walk the next stepsGive the priceHandle objectionsSeal the deal

Your one job: ask good questions and listen. The prospect basically talks themselves into it. You're a doctor figuring out what's wrong — not a salesperson pushing a product. New words below ๐Ÿ‘‡

๐Ÿ“˜ Plain-English glossary โ€” every term in here, defined (tap to open)
Sales words you'll see
Prospect โ€” the business owner you're on the call with (your potential client).
Rapport โ€” quick, friendly small talk at the start so you feel like a real person.
Frame / setting the frame โ€” telling them up front how the call will go, so nothing later feels like an ambush.
Discovery โ€” the question phase. You're diagnosing their business and problems before suggesting anything.
Current state vs. future state โ€” where their business is now vs. where they want it to be. The space between is "the gap."
Build the gap โ€” making that distance feel real and worth fixing, so they want to act now.
Qualify โ€” figuring out whether they're actually a good fit and can afford it (so you don't waste time).
The pitch โ€” the short part where you explain how you'd help. Kept high-level, tied to their problems.
Tie-down โ€” a quick check-in question like "make sense?" or "fair enough?" that gets a small yes and keeps them with you.
Temp check / the 1–10 close โ€” asking how sold they are, on a 1–10 scale ("you can't say a 7"). You run this before giving the price, to lock in their full buy-in on the program first.
Objection โ€” a reason they give for not moving forward ("too expensive," "need to think about it," "talk to my partner").
Close โ€” getting them to commit and pay.
CRM โ€” the software you track leads and clients in (e.g. GoHighLevel). "Mark them in the CRM" just means log it there.
Push-pull โ€” staying calm and even pulling back instead of chasing. Counter-intuitively, it makes them lean in. Chasing pushes them away.
The seven doors โ€” the 7 things you must uncover before they'll buy: their pain, the solution they want, the cost of staying stuck, their doubt, their urgency (why now), their desire, and their support (spouse/partner on board).
The money numbers (you'll use these in the calculator)
Lead โ€” someone who raised their hand (filled out a form, called) but hasn't bought yet.
LTV (Lifetime Value) โ€” the total money one customer is worth to the business: a single big job, or all their repeat visits added up.
Profit margin โ€” of each sale, the percent that's actual profit after their costs. A $10,000 job at 60% margin = $6,000 profit.
Close rate โ€” the percent of leads (or appointments) that turn into paying customers. 10 leads, 2 buy = 20%.
Ad spend โ€” money put into running the Facebook/Instagram ads (separate from the fee you charge).
CPL (Cost Per Lead) โ€” how much in ad spend it takes to get one lead.
CAC (Customer Acquisition Cost) โ€” how much in ad spend it takes to get one paying customer. Roughly CPL รท close rate.
Cost per booked call โ€” ad cost to get one sales appointment booked. Show-up rate โ€” % of booked appointments where the person actually shows.
ROI (Return On Investment) โ€” what they get back for what they spend. "2X ROI" = they make $2 for every $1 they put in.
Retainer โ€” a recurring monthly fee the client pays you (vs. a one-time project).
๐Ÿ“ž Live call sheet โ€” fill the blue boxes as you go
Read this once before you ever run the script. A sales call is a doctor's appointment, not a pitch. The doctor doesn't hand you a prescription the second you sit down — she asks where it hurts, how long, what you've tried. People accept the prescription because they helped diagnose the problem. Your job on this call is to ask great questions and shut up. The prospect closes themselves. You just hold the path.
00 · Before the Call

Pre-Call Ritual

Win the call before it starts. Run this checklist every time.

  • Prospect confirmed via calendar invite, has been pre-qualified by their application/lead form, and has consumed some content.
  • You're well-rested, in a quiet room, no distractions, with their application open in front of you.
  • Keep this page open in your browser — you'll jot answers into the blue boxes as they talk, and it scores the fit right after Discovery. Start fresh: hit New Call at the top.
  • Be fully present and detached from the outcome. Your only job is to be an exceptional listener who asks intentional questions.
  • Show up right on time. Not early, not late.
If they no-show: Call twice (first usually hits voicemail), leave one voicemail, wait 5 minutes. Mark them "Demo No-Show" in the CRM and follow up daily — automation + manual — until they reply. An emergency is real sometimes. Treat it that way, then chase like a pro.
01 · Open

Introduction & Rapport

High energy. If you're not excited, why would they be? Rapport isn't about becoming their best friend — it's a 30-second signal that you're a normal human, not a weird internet salesperson.

You: Hey [Name], it's [Your Name] — how are you doing today?
Prospect: Doing good.
You: Good to hear. Before we dive in — is now still a solid time for us to talk? It'll run about 45 minutes to an hour.1
[Wait for a clear "yes." If they sound distracted or like they're driving, address it now — don't push forward into a half-present call.]
You: Awesome. And before we get going — where are you calling in from?
Prospect: [Their city].
You: Nice — you from there, born and raised? You like it?
Keep this short. One or two exchanges. The goal is micro-connection and tone-setting, then move.
02 · Set the Frame

The Upfront Agreement

Tell them exactly how the call works so nothing later feels like a surprise or an ambush. This earns you permission to ask hard questions.

You: Cool — so before we dive in, let me walk you through how these calls usually run, then we'll get into it. Sound good?2
Prospect: Sounds good.
You: Perfect. So I'll start by asking you some questions about your business and the form you filled out, which I've got in front of me. My goal isn't to spend 45 minutes trying to sell you something you don't need or aren't a fit for — it's to actually understand you, your business, where it's at, and where you're trying to take it. So there might be moments where it feels like I'm grilling you a little… that's only me digging for clarity. Make sense so far?3
Prospect: Yeah, makes sense.
You: Great. And based on all that, if it sounds like there are ways I can actually help, I'll ask your permission to walk you through how we work and what we could potentially do for you. I've got nothing up my sleeve — I'm about as open and transparent as it gets. And at the end, you'll decide if what I do makes sense for you. Comfortable with that?
Prospect: Yep.
You: Love it. Let's get into it.
03 · Discovery

Discovery — The Heart of the Call

This is 70% of the close. You're diagnosing current state vs. desired state and surfacing the pain that makes them want to move now. Be slow. Use pauses. Take notes. Without pain, there is no sale.

๐Ÿ—’ Jot answers in the blue boxes as you go

As the prospect talks, type their answers into the blue capture boxes sprinkled through this section. The numbers feed straight into the Fit Check calculator that appears right after Discovery — so by the time you finish asking questions, you'll already know if they're a good, profitable fit. Everything auto-saves.

The Opener

You: So what was it about our company or our content that made you want to jump on a call?4
They'll usually answer high-level. Don't accept the first answer. It takes 3–4 "why's" to get to the real problem. Stay slow, no "um" or "like," let silence do the work.
You: Gotcha… and what makes you say that?  /  Tell me more about that.

Baseline Questions (Cheat Sheet #1 · get a pulse on the numbers)

If they don't know their numbers — and most won't — that's good. It hands you leverage. Pause when they go blank; the silence plants healthy doubt about how blind they've been running.
  • Who do you usually work with, and what's the transformation they get from your business?
  • What's your average job size or ticket?
  • Right now, how are you generating leads? About how many a month?
  • Once someone's interested, how do you turn them into a paying customer? What's your closing percentage?
  • How many new clients are you bringing on per month right now?
  • Do you know your average cost per lead?cost per booked appointment?cost to actually acquire a customer?5
  • About how much are you spending on ads a month to get those leads?
  • And honestly — can you even handle more volume right now if I sent it to you?
Transition out of baseline: "Got it — I'm definitely starting to get a clearer picture of where the business is at."
โœ๏ธ Their numbers โ€” the 4 starred โญ feed the Fit Check (enter plain numbers, no $ or % signs needed)

Pain Questions (Cheat Sheet #3 · find the biggest gap)

You: With everything we just talked through — where do you feel the biggest gaps are in the business right now? Or put another way: what's not performing the way you know it could or should?6
Prospect: [Names a problem.]
You: … What makes you say that?
You: How long has this been going on?
You: What have you tried so far to solve it for good? How'd that work out?
"Tried" is a golden word — it carries the frustration of not getting there. When you hear it, dig: "You mentioned you tried… what didn't work about it?"
โœ๏ธ Top pain points (their words)

Doubt Questions

You: I can appreciate that. So — in your own honest opinion — what's preventing you from solving this on your own, or at least in the timeframe you actually want to?7
You: Do you have a specific plan to fix [their problem]?

Cost Questions (Cheat Sheet "If Nothing Changes" + Emotional/Financial Impact)

You: When it comes to [their problem] — have you ever stopped to think about what it's actually costing you to not have this solved?8
You: What is it costing you right now? — let them go past money: time, stress, health, relationships, peace of mind.
The math moment (use their numbers):
You: So right now you're getting [30–40] decent leads a month and closing maybe [2–3], partly because the leads aren't educated on what you do. If we got that fixed, how many of those [30–40] do you think you could realistically close?
Prospect: Honestly? Probably 10–15.
You: Okay, I believe you — let's be conservative and say 10. If you're closing 2–3 now and you know you could close 10, that's around 7 deals a month slipping through your fingers. At [their ticket], that's roughly [$X] of uncollected cash every single month. Is that accurate?9
โœ๏ธ Cost of staying stuck

Desire Questions (Cheat Sheet #2 · Goals & Vision)

You: Where do you want to take this business over the next [timeframe of your offer]?
You: How many leads — and how many booked appointments — would you want to see consistently each month?
You: What changes in your life come from hitting those numbers? What's the real "why" behind wanting this?
You: And I know it's a bit of a cheesy question… but how soon do you want this solved? Is this a now thing, or a later thing?10
Prospect: Now, for sure.
You: Got it — and based on how you've answered everything, I'd agree this is a now problem. But what makes you say that specifically?
โœ๏ธ Their goals & the "why"

Money Questions

You: So you said you charge [$X] and close around [%]… that puts you around [$X]/month right now. Accurate?
You: Have you been hitting that pretty consistently the last 3–4 months?
You: And how much of that are you actually keeping?11
You: Are you paying yourself from that, or is it all going back into the business?
You: Can I ask you a slightly personal question? — Does that put you in a tough financial spot right now, or do you have other income supporting you?
Pro move — open the wallet HERE, not at the close. While the walls are down, get the real financial picture so "I don't have the money" can't ambush you later.

Support Questions (Cheat Sheet #4 · Investment Readiness)

You: On these calls it's usually a 50/50 split — about half the owners have a rock-solid support system at home, and the other half are either solo or feel like they've got something to prove to their partner. Not that the partner doesn't love them — they're just a little cautious about how the business is really going. Which camp would you put yourself in?12
If supportive: "Love that. So you're pretty open with them about the highs and the lows? And do they know you're on this call looking for a way to hit [their goal]?"
If unsupportive: "I appreciate the honesty. Is the hesitation more about you as a partner, or more about a lack of trust that the business will become what you said you want it to be?" — then: "Have you ever laid out these goals for them the way you just did for me? And if we decided there's a real fit here, do you think they'd support you getting help to get there?"
Decision maker check: Confirm now — "And just so I understand the structure: is this a decision you'd make on your own, or is there a partner involved too?" Quietly log it. This determines how you handle the close.
โœ๏ธ Investment readiness
Yes   No
Yes   No
Yes   Unsure
03.5 · Fit Check

๐Ÿงฎ Is This a Profitable, Good Fit?

You've gathered their numbers above. Before you pitch, take 20 seconds here to confirm the math actually works for them. If it's a ๐Ÿ”ด, you politely point them elsewhere instead of selling a client who'll churn.

The four โญ numbers from Baseline (LTV, margin, close rate, CPL) flow in automatically. Just set the ad spend & your fee below, and read the verdict.

๐Ÿ“˜ New to these numbers? What each one means โ€” tap to open

From Baseline (auto-filled): LTV = what one customer is worth. Profit margin = % of each sale that's profit. Close rate = % of leads that buy. CPL = ad cost per lead (no idea? use the benchmark the verdict shows).

You set: Ad spend budget = what they'll spend on ads/mo. Service fee = what you charge/mo.

It calculates: 2X profit goal = double their monthly cost (the bar to clearly be worth it) ยท Sales needed = customers/mo to hit it ยท Leads required = leads to get those sales ยท CAC = ad cost per paying customer ยท Ad budget status = whether their budget can buy enough leads.

Universal red flags — check any that apply

Dynamic engine: 2X bar = 2 ร— monthly cost ยท Sales needed = 2X goal รท (LTV ร— margin) ยท Leads = sales รท close rate ยท CAC = CPL รท close rate. Feasibility: ๐ŸŸข โ‰ค4 sales/mo ยท ๐ŸŸก โ‰ค6.5 ยท ๐Ÿ”ด above.

Use the verdict, don't read it aloud. ๐ŸŸข/๐ŸŸก โ†’ keep going into the pitch. ๐Ÿ”ด or โŒ โ†’ it's kinder (and smarter) to point them elsewhere than to sell a client who can't win.
04 · Transition

Get Them to Ask You to Pitch

Don't lurch from questions into pitching. Bridge it — and hand them the wheel so they invite the pitch. This single move changes the energy from "salesperson telling me" to "I asked for this."

You: I really appreciate how open you've been with all my questions — it's been genuinely helpful. Based on everything you've told me, I see the same gaps you do, and I think there are some real ways we can help. I can walk you through how that'd look… but you tell me — where do you want to go from here?13
[Wait. Let them give you permission to pitch. If they say "yeah, walk me through it" — perfect, now it's their idea.]
05 · The Pitch

The Pitch — 3 Steps

Stay high-level. Don't drown them in tactics. Tie a benefit to every step, and after each one, run a double tie-down so it's a dialogue, not a monologue. Present only to the problems they told you.

You: Cool. So at the end of the day, the reason I talk to people like you is simple: we help business owners take real control of their lead flow and sales — so the calendar fills predictably and the business actually becomes more profitable, not just busier. You still got that pen and paper? Write out 1, 2, 3 with some space between them. Everything we do is customized to your business, but it comes down to three things that take you from [current jobs/month] to [target jobs/month]. Cool?
Step 1

Polish & Differentiate Your Offer

You: Step one is the part most people skip — and it's why most ads flop. Before we spend a dollar, we sharpen your actual offer. Here's the problem: most businesses run ads on a "me too" offer that looks like every competitor down the street, so the ad has to work twice as hard and still underperforms. We fix that first. We make your offer a no-brainer — clearly different, clearly more valuable, and communicated so a homeowner instantly gets why they'd pick you over the other five guys. Because the truth is, if the offer's weak or sounds like everyone else, no amount of ad spend saves it. Get the offer right, and the ads do the heavy lifting for you.
You: Does that make sense? — What are your thoughts on that?14
Step 2

Script, Film & Launch the Ads

You: Step two — now that the offer's dialed, we script, film, and launch the ads built around it. The problem most owners hit is they hand it to an agency that runs generic stock-footage ads and hopes something sticks. Instead, we write the scripts, capture real video of you and your team — I usually only need about three hours on one filming day to get a full month of content — and we launch to your local market. We build three creatives to split-test so we're not guessing which message wins, and you've got your first leads coming in within about a week of filming. We handle the publishing and the ad management — your only job is to answer the phone and close.
You: Can you see how that takes the guesswork — and the heavy lifting — off your plate? What questions do you have on that?
Step 3

Ongoing Management, Data Tracking & Optimization

You: Step three is where the real compounding happens, and it's what separates us from the "set it and forget it" crowd. We manage the campaigns ongoing and track the data every single day — cost per lead, cost per booked call, cost to acquire a customer. Then we make data-backed decisions to keep improving: we take the winning ad each month and optimize from there, kill what's not working, and double down on what is. The goal isn't just "leads" — it's high-quality, qualified leads at the lowest cost per lead possible, while we drive your cost to acquire a customer as low as it'll go. Over time it gets cheaper and more profitable, not more expensive.
KPIs we live in: CPL Cost / Booked Call CAC Show-up rate Close rate
You: Does all of that make sense? Do you see how this isn't just running ads — it's a system that gets sharper every month?
You: So with all that said — I know I just did a lot of talking. Are you comfortable with everything we covered, and do you see how this could be the solution to not just fix [their pain], but build real momentum toward [their goal]?
[Answer any questions, then get buy-in again that it's clear.]
You: And while everything making sense matters — the bigger question is, do you see yourself being anything less than 100% confident that this is the right strategy for you right now?15
If they're anything less than 100%, get curious, resolve it, and re-confirm before you ever mention price.
06 · Committing

The Committing Phase

You have a process for discovery and the pitch — don't abandon it now. Run questions → small temp → then lock in their full buy-in on the program before you ever talk price.

Questions

You: What questions do you have about those three things specifically?16
Three moves, every time: (1) Clarify before answering — "Just so I answer accurately, is your question about X or Y?" (2) Answer briefly — one or two sentences, never a three-minute spiel. (3) Stay in the lead"Great question — what else?"

The Small Temp

You: Got it — so based on everything we covered, you feel like this is what you need to hit [their outcome]?
Last cheap checkpoint before money's on the table. If you did your job, it's a yes.

Bridge to Buy-In

You: Cool — so no more questions, and you feel like this is what you need. Before we talk about anything else, I just want to make sure we're genuinely on the same page.17
[Lead straight into the 1–10 Close below. You are NOT asking for the price yet — you lock full belief in the program first.]
07 · Full Buy-In

Lock In Buy-In — Before You Talk Price

Get them 100% sold on the program itself before money ever enters the room. Once they're a true 10 on the plan, the price becomes a logistics detail — and any objection left is far easier to handle. Do not mention price yet.

โญ The 1–10 Close (your buy-in gate — memorize it)

You: So alignment is really important to me and how we work — anyone we take on, I want us genuinely on the same page that this plan actually gets you to [their goal].18
You: So on a scale of 1 to 10 — with 10 being "this is exactly what I need" — where do you sit right now? And you can't say a 7.28
You: [If 8–10] I appreciate that — what makes you say that, and not a 3?  |  [If lower] What's missing, or not fully clear, that would move you closer to a 10?
Tone: definitive and direct — not aggressive, not soft. You command an honest answer by being honest yourself. You want the real number, not a polite 10 — a concern surfaced now (before price) beats a fake yes that dies later.
Whatever they say is "missing" is a program-belief concern. Handle it right here using the Objection plays in section 10, then re-ask the 1–10. Do not move to next steps until they're a true 10. If discovery and the pitch landed, you'll usually get a 9 or 10 right out of the gate.

โš ๏ธ If they push for price early — "I'm an 8, just tell me the cost"

This is the moment that feels the most "salesy" to you — like you're hiding the number. So don't hide it — be transparent about why. If you blurt the price into an 8, the price becomes the scapegoat ("too expensive") when the real issue is the 2 points of doubt. Name the reason out loud, get the 2 points, then give the number.
You: Totally fair — and I promise I'm not dodging it, I'll give you the exact number in one sec. The only reason I haven't yet is the price honestly doesn't matter if you're not sure this is the right move for you. I'd never want you putting money into something you're only an 8 on. So real quick — what are those 2 points? What's the hesitation? Then I'll lay out the investment and exactly what's next.
Tone: relaxed and transparent, almost like you're doing them a favor — because you are. Don't turn it into a standoff. If they've heard your reason and still insist, give the number, then circle right back: "Cool — now that you've got that, what was the hesitation keeping you from a 10?" Refusing twice is what actually feels salesy. The goal is the close, not winning the withhold.

At a True 10 → Move to Next Steps

You: Love it — sounds like we're fully aligned. Want me to walk you through exactly what the next steps look like?
[They say yes. Now walk the onboarding journey below — still no price. You're letting them picture being a client before they ever hear the number.]
08 · Next Steps

Walk the Onboarding — Still No Price

They asked to hear next steps. Paint the picture of being a client: what happens the moment they come on board. This makes them feel "already in," so the price lands as a formality, not a hurdle.

You: Perfect. So here's exactly how it works once we get you started. First, you'll get a welcome email from our team with your client portal and a couple of quick onboarding documents — just the info we need about your business. Then we lock in your kickoff call within the next 48 hours. On that call we map out your first 90 days and schedule your filming day. From there, I personally help you script your first ad, we get it launched, and you've got leads flowing in within about a week. Sound good so far?
Prospect: Yeah, that sounds great.
Keep it vivid and assumptive — "once we get you started," "your kickoff call," "your filming day." They should be picturing themselves as a client. Get a "yes / sounds good" before you reveal the number.
09 · The Investment

Give the Price — Last

They're a 10 and they've pictured being a client. Now drop the price clean and calm, then pause. Because buy-in is already locked, most of what's left is logistics.

You: So to get started today and get you on the path to [their goal], the investment is $9,500 (excluding ad spend — swap in your number).
[Don't lead with payment plans. Drop it, then pause — not a weird silence game, just a real beat. If 6–7 seconds pass: "What are your thoughts? How are you feeling?"]
10 · Objections

The Objection Loop

You already locked full buy-in at the 1–10, so most of what's left after the price is logistics (money, partner, timing). Still run the loop: surface any lingering uncertainty first, then handle the logistics. Use these same plays back at the 1–10 too, if a program-belief concern came up there.

The Objection Pyramid

Only one of these is a real objection. The other two are logistics that dissolve once uncertainty is dead.

1. Uncertainty — the ONLY true objection"Think about it," "sleep on it," "do research," "not sure it'll work." All of it = "I'm not sold."
2. Support — a logisticNeeds a spouse, partner, or board. Deferring authority, not doubt.
3. Financial — a logisticLiteral cash mechanics. NOT "it's too much" — that's uncertainty in a costume.
The rule 80% of closers blow: handle uncertainty FIRST. Always. You cannot fix a payment plan or a spouse conversation until they 100% want it. The loop: Isolate → Address → Re-tie down. Repeat until uncertainty is dead.

The Plays

"I need to sleep on it." Uncertainty
You: No problem. Just so I'm clear — how do you feel? Do you 100% feel like this is what you need to hit [goal], and that it's 100% going to work?
Prospect: I do, I really like it. I just don't make decisions on the first call.
You: Totally fair. So to clarify — if we set a time tomorrow and you wake up feeling the same way you do right now, then we're 100% processing payment and moving forward?19
Notice the move: pre-anchor "tomorrow" before you ask to schedule, so the close window isn't "next week." And say "processing payment" — it's uncomfortable enough that a polite-yes breaks and gives you the real concern.
"I need to find the money." Financial logistic
You: No problem — how do you feel? Do you 100% feel this is what you need, and that it's 100% going to work?
Prospect: I definitely want to do this. It's really just a matter of how I come up with the money.
You: So — money aside, you're 100% in?20
Prospect: Yes.
You: Most of our clients pay upfront, but depending on the situation we'll break it up for the right person. Are you open to an honest conversation about the finances — everything on the table — so we can see if there's a way to make this work now, or at least build a real game plan?
The open wallet (3 questions): "What's your net incoming cash over the next 30 days? What's actually in your account right now — not what you're willing to spend, what's in there? And what about access to credit?" Then: "And you really want to do this, right?"
You: Look — I don't think doing it all upfront is right if it zeroes you out, and I don't think doing nothing is right either. So if I'm willing to split it — half now, half in 30 days — will you move forward right now?
Never break a payment plan for free. 2-pay → ask for a decision today. 3-pay → decision today + a case-study commitment. A concession with no exchange has zero value. Always start at the highest structure they can handle.
"I need to talk to my partner / spouse." Support logistic
Your goal on this call is not the money — it's getting this person 100% sold so they become your champion in the next conversation. A champion who isn't sold can't convince anyone.
You: No problem. Just so I'm clear — for you personally, do you 100% feel this is what you need to hit your goal?
You: So if it was solely your call, you'd be processing payment and moving forward right now?
You: Perfect. Now — is this something you've decided and you're just letting them know? Or something you two really need to collaborate on?
Then equip the champion. Ask: "What do you think they'll say? What about the price? What would be the reason — if any — they wouldn't want to do this?" Listen for landmines and whether this person can actually sell it.
The two-versions coaching move — read both out loud:
The wimp: "Hey babe… you know that business I spent a ton on that's only caused us stress? I met a guy online who might help. It's like seven grand. What do you think?"
The leader: "Babe, I know the business hasn't been what I promised. You've supported me through all of it. I'm fixing that, starting now. I found someone great to help me get there, and I'm asking for your buy-in on a decision I've already made. This is important — I need to do this for us."
Then: "Which of those two guys convinces his wife? Right — so which one are you going to be? Because if you're not certain, she won't be either. Anything still keeping you from 100%? Let's cover it now."21
"I tried something like this before and it didn't work." Solution doubt
You: Totally get it — that's frustrating. So I'm clear: is there anything about what I outlined specifically that's keeping you from 100% certain this works? Or is it purely the hangover from that bad experience?
Prospect: Yeah, exactly — that last thing was just a horrible experience.
You: Got it. So outside of that, you're essentially 100% in? … Look, when someone invests and doesn't get a result, it's almost always one of three things: the method was wrong for them, the support wasn't there to execute, or they didn't actually do the work. Which of those do you think it was — if not a combination?22
Whatever they name is your differentiation. Method → contrast your method. Support → emphasize your execution model. Work ethic → re-qualify: "Are you ready to put in the work this time?" They hand you the angle.
"What if it doesn't work for me?" Uncertainty
You: Hear you. So I'm organized — what you're saying is, despite the results and case studies I showed you, you're worried you'll be the small percentage this doesn't work for, right?
You: Honest question: if you come in — one, are you going to put in 100% of the work? And two, when you hit a wall, are you going to raise your hand and ask for help, or bury your head in the sand?
Prospect: I'll do the work. I'll raise my hand.
You: Then with our track record and you committing to those two things — tell me, why wouldn't this work for you?23
If they get stuck and can't name a real reason, it's almost always nerves — go to the Nerves play below.
"I need to do some research." Uncertainty
You: No problem at all. Just so I'm organized — what's keeping you from being less than 100% certain this is what you need to hit your goal?
You: When you say research, what specifically were you hoping to find out? Reviews? Case studies? Something else?
If they keep meandering (last-ditch honesty):
You: Can I be honest with you? Earlier you said you were 100% certain — now I'm asking what you'd research and you can't really name it. I'm totally fine if you want to look into it, and totally fine if you're just not that interested. But one of my values is honesty, and I can't shake the feeling something's off. What's really going on?24
Two clean outcomes: a real concern surfaces, or you walk away without booking a fake follow-up that ghosts you. Both beat a fake yes.
"Can I talk to one of your clients first?" Logistic / stall
You: Let's cover that in a sec. First — aside from that, do you 100% feel this is what you need? If you spoke to a client and they validated everything I said, we're processing payment?
You: Here's our policy. We've got 100+ people reaching out every month, and our clients are busy business owners — their time is worth a lot. It wouldn't be right to fill their calendars with everyone who's just thinking about joining, so that's off the table. But that's exactly why we have [#] of case studies and recorded results. What kind of person would you want to see? I'll pull the closest match.25
Frame it as policy, not preference — "that's off the table," said definitively, then instantly redirect to assets you control. Confident, never apologetic.
"I don't have time to implement." Uncertainty in disguise
You: Got it. Aside from time, you 100% want to do this and 100% believe it'll work?
You: So you told me the #1 problem in your business is lead gen. You also said your biggest constraint is where you spend your time. And you said this is the best path to fix it. If all three are true — what would you spend your time on, if not the thing that fixes your #1 problem?26
Pause and let them sit in it. Most don't have an answer — because there isn't one. The thing they're "too busy" for is the thing that buys back their time.
"Is there a guarantee?" Often just curiosity
You: Happy to talk about it. Quick question — is there a specific reason you're asking?
If curiosity: short answer, move on — "We don't, because too much is out of our control. Great question — what else?"   If "I've been burned": that's the real objection — go to the "tried before" play.
You: What I can guarantee is the tools, the support, and case studies of people just like you. What actually decides your result is two things: will you do the work, and will you raise your hand when you're stuck?
"I'm just nervous / it feels risky." Emotional
When they're stuck and can't name a concern, give the feeling a name. Once they accept "nerves," it's highly closeable. Tone: calm, low, intimate — like a friend, not an infomercial.
You: Look — do you think it's maybe just a little bit of nerves?
Prospect: Yeah… I think so.
You: Good. Those nerves are there for a reason — it means this matters. Nothing great ever got built by someone who wasn't a little nervous at the start. Deep down, despite the fear, you should know this is the right move. So the real question is: do you want to be the person who gives in to the fear, or the one who feels it and does it anyway?27
"I need board / boss approval for the spend." Upward authority
You: Got it. Aside from approval — for you personally, this is what you want to do?
You: Quick question — what's the threshold above which you need sign-off?
Prospect: Anything over [$X].
You: Here's what we can do — a refundable deposit just under that gets you started today, and you spend the next two weeks getting sign-off for the rest. An object in motion stays in motion.
Find the threshold, start just under it. Started = invested = they fight for approval. Worst move is just booking a follow-up after the board meeting — deals die in the wait.
"I need to run it by my team (they'll implement)." Downward authority
You: Smart. Quick reality check though — what if they say no? Or that they don't have bandwidth? Or "we can just do this ourselves"? Because that's often exactly what teams say.
You: Look — if you believe this is the #1 constraint in your business, your job as the owner is to set the priority and align everyone to attack it. You're not asking permission — you're asking for buy-in. If they push back, are you prepared to say "I hear you, but we're doing this"?
Reframe from "let me check" to "I'm leading this, I just want them on board." Most owners realize they don't actually need approval — they just felt like they should ask.
11 · Lock It In

Seal the Deal

You: Awesome — let's get you started. I'll get the payment processed, fire off your welcome email with the portal and onboarding docs, and we'll lock your kickoff call for the next 48 hours. Welcome aboard.
You already walked them through onboarding back in section 08, so this is just confirming and collecting. After payment: manually schedule the kickoff call for <48 hours out; on that call, schedule the filming day. Speed protects momentum.
The one line to leave with: most closers never actually answer the most important question on the call — does this person 100% want to do it, and are they sold? Nail that, and everything else falls into place. Bad to good is fundamentals. Good to great is the fringe deal — the 60–80% who can close but need you to actually be a closer.
๐Ÿ“– Why We Ask

The Reason Behind Every Hard Question

If a question feels pushy or uncomfortable to ask, it's almost always because you don't yet understand what it does for the prospect. Read these until the discomfort turns into conviction. A confident question lands; a nervous one leaks.

1"Is now still a good time? It'll run 45–60 minutes."

Feels awkward because you don't want to give them an exit so early.

Why we ask

You're locking in their full attention and setting the time expectation so they don't bail at minute 30 "for another meeting." A half-present prospect never buys.

How it serves the prospect

It respects their time and lets them clear distractions so they actually get value from the call instead of half-listening.

How it advances the sale

A verbal "yes, I've got the time" is a micro-commitment. They've now agreed to stay for the whole thing — which means they'll be present for the pain, the pitch, and the close.

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2Asking permission to explain how the call works

Feels unnecessary — why not just start?

Why we ask

You're taking the leadership position. The person asking the questions controls the conversation. Asking permission first makes that control feel collaborative, not pushy.

How it serves the prospect

People relax when they know what's coming. Removing uncertainty about the call's structure lowers their guard so they'll actually be honest with you.

How it advances the sale

It pre-frames everything: the questions, the potential pitch, and the decision at the end — so none of it feels like an ambush. You earn the right to dig.

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3"It might feel like I'm grilling you…"

Feels like you're apologizing for being too intense.

Why we ask

You're inoculating against the discomfort before it happens. By naming it up front, the hard questions later feel expected and safe instead of intrusive.

How it serves the prospect

It tells them the depth is for them — you're a doctor diagnosing, not a salesperson prying. People trust a thorough doctor more than a quick one.

How it advances the sale

When you ask a money or pain question later and they feel a flicker of "whoa," they remember you warned them — so they answer instead of clamming up. Honest answers are the raw material of the close.

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4"What made you want to jump on this call?" + 3–4 "why's"

Feels repetitive — like you're interrogating when they already answered.

Why we ask

The first answer is always surface level ("I want more leads"). The real, emotional problem is 3–4 layers down. Each "what makes you say that?" peels a layer.

How it serves the prospect

It helps them get clear on what's actually wrong — most owners have never articulated it out loud. You're giving them clarity they didn't have walking in.

How it advances the sale

People buy on emotion and justify with logic. The deep "why" is where the emotion lives. You can't sell to a problem the prospect hasn't felt — the layers make them feel it.

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5Asking for exact numbers — CPL, cost per appointment, CAC

Feels rude or "gotcha" when they clearly don't know them.

Why we ask

Not knowing the numbers is the diagnosis. It proves they're flying blind — which is exactly the problem your system solves with daily data tracking.

How it serves the prospect

It's a gentle wake-up call. Realizing "I have no idea what a customer costs me" creates the healthy discomfort that makes someone finally want to fix it.

How it advances the sale

The silence when they go blank does your selling for you — no need to lecture. And it pre-sells Step 3 of your pitch (data tracking) before you ever pitch it. Don't rush to rescue them from the pause.

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6"Where are the biggest gaps right now?"

Feels like you're asking them to admit weakness to a stranger.

Why we ask

You need them to name the problem in their own words. A problem the prospect says out loud is real; a problem you point out is resented.

How it serves the prospect

Saying it out loud is the first step to solving it. You're giving them permission to be honest about something they've been avoiding.

How it advances the sale

Their words become your script. When you pitch, you mirror back their language — so the solution feels custom-built, not cookie-cutter.

Nervous this opens up problems you don't sell solutions for (sales team, hiring, cash flow)? That's actually the point — it stops you assuming their pain, and it surfaces the real bottleneck (which might change what you should sell them). ๐ŸŽฏ Full breakdown in Coaching Corner

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7"What's preventing you from solving this on your own?"

Feels almost insulting — like you're poking at their competence.

Why we ask

It surfaces the honest reason they're stuck. Usually it's a gap only outside help fills — which is precisely the case for hiring you.

How it serves the prospect

It forces an honest self-audit. They realize "if I could've fixed this myself, I would have by now" — that realization is freeing, not shaming, when you ask it with curiosity.

How it advances the sale

They build the case for buying for you. By naming what's blocked them, they conclude on their own that going it alone won't change anything.

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8"What's this problem actually costing you?"

Feels manipulative — like you're twisting the knife.

Why we ask

You're moving them from "this is annoying" to "this is expensive." Cost — in money, time, stress, relationships — is what turns a someday into a now.

How it serves the prospect

Most people never quantify the cost of inaction, so they tolerate it forever. Naming it is what finally makes them protect themselves from it.

How it advances the sale

It builds the value gap. If the problem costs them $35k/month, a $9,500 investment looks tiny. You're not selling a price — you're selling relief from a bigger bleed.

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9The math moment — "that's ~$X of uncollected cash every month"

Feels aggressive to put a hard number on their failure.

Why we ask

You're making the invisible visible. Using their own numbers, you turn a vague frustration into a concrete monthly bleed they can't un-see.

How it serves the prospect

It reframes the decision honestly: doing nothing isn't "free" — it has a price tag, and they're paying it every month they wait.

How it advances the sale

It anchors value 10x above your price. Because the math came from their mouth (you just added it up), they can't argue with it — and "Is that accurate?" gets them to agree to the stakes.

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10"How soon do you want this solved — now or later?"

Feels like you're fishing for a yes too early.

Why we ask

You're testing urgency. If there's no real urgency, no objection handling will save the deal — better to find out now and build it.

How it serves the prospect

It makes them confront their own timeline. "Now" out of their own mouth is a commitment they'll feel accountable to later.

How it advances the sale

When they say "now" and explain why, they're pre-handling the "let me think about it" objection before it ever shows up. You're banking their urgency.

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11Money questions — "how much are you keeping?" / "tough financial spot?"

The most uncomfortable questions on the call. Feels invasive.

Why we ask

You need to know if they can actually afford the solution — and how the money pressure is affecting them — before you pitch. Selling someone who can't pay, or ignoring their real situation, wastes everyone's time.

How it serves the prospect

Asked with care (and after you set the "personal question" frame), it shows you actually care about their reality, not just the sale. It also lets them voice financial stress they've been carrying silently.

How it advances the sale

It qualifies budget and deepens trust at the same time. And when they admit money is tight because of the problem you solve, you've just tied the pain directly to the cure. Say it calm and matter-of-fact — your comfort gives them permission to answer.

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12The Support question — "supportive or something to prove?"

Feels too personal — like it has nothing to do with business.

Why we ask

The spouse/partner is the #1 hidden deal-killer. You surface that relationship now so it doesn't ambush you at the close as "I need to talk to my partner."

How it serves the prospect

It opens a real conversation about their support system — often something they need to think through anyway. Giving them the two "camps" makes it safe to be honest.

How it advances the sale

If there's an unsupportive partner, you find out early and coach them into a champion. If supportive, you've removed an objection before it exists. Either way, no surprise veto at the end.

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13"Where do you want to go from here?" (the transition)

Feels passive — like you're losing control by handing it over.

Why we ask

You're getting them to invite the pitch. A pitch you're given permission to deliver is welcomed; a pitch you launch into uninvited is endured.

How it serves the prospect

It keeps them in the driver's seat. They never feel sold to — they feel like they pulled the information out of you.

How it advances the sale

It flips the dynamic from "salesperson presenting" to "prospect requesting." That small flip lowers resistance through the entire rest of the call.

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14The double tie-down — "Make sense? What are your thoughts?"

Feels repetitive to keep checking in after every step.

Why we ask

"Does that make sense?" confirms clarity. "What are your thoughts?" forces them to verbalize agreement — which is far stickier than a silent nod.

How it serves the prospect

It keeps the pitch a two-way conversation instead of a monologue they tune out of. They stay engaged and actually absorb it.

How it advances the sale

Every small "yeah, that makes sense" is a micro-commitment stacking toward the final yes. And if there's confusion or disagreement, you catch it now — not after the price drop when it becomes an objection.

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15"Anything less than 100% confident?" (pre-price)

Feels like you're inviting them to raise a problem.

Why we ask

You want doubts surfaced before money's on the table — while they're cheap to handle. Hidden doubt is what kills deals after the price drop.

How it serves the prospect

It gives them a safe moment to voice hesitation instead of bottling it up and ghosting you later. Honesty now saves them a decision they'd regret either way.

How it advances the sale

You never want to introduce price to an unconvinced prospect. Confirming conviction first means price becomes a logistics conversation, not a battle.

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16"What questions about these three things specifically?"

Feels like a throwaway — why the word "specifically"?

Why we ask

"Specifically" aims their attention at the process before they jump to price. If they don't believe in the process, no price conversation will save the deal.

How it serves the prospect

It makes sure they fully understand what they'd be buying before they evaluate the cost — so they make an informed decision, not a reactive one.

How it advances the sale

It catches confusion while it's still cheap to fix, and it keeps you in control of sequence: belief first, price second.

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17The bridge — "I just want to make sure we're on the same page"

Feels like a throwaway transition line.

Why we ask

It hands off cleanly from your questions into the 1–10 buy-in check — without telegraphing that price is coming. You're signaling "let's confirm we're aligned," not "here comes the pitch for money."

How it serves the prospect

It frames the next moment as a mutual alignment check, not a sales push — so they answer the 1–10 honestly instead of defensively.

How it advances the sale

It sets up the 1–10 close as the natural next beat, and keeps price out of the room until they're fully bought in on the program.

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18The 1–10 Close — locking full buy-in before price

The scariest moment in the script. Feels like you might talk them out of it.

Why we ask

This is the single most important move on the call — and you run it before price. You must know if they're truly sold on the program, or just being polite. Getting an honest 1–10 (and "you can't say a 7") forces a real read on their belief in the plan.

How it serves the prospect

It gives them a clean, safe moment to be fully honest. A polite "yeah I'm in" that quietly dies later helps no one — this protects them from a half-decision.

How it advances the sale

Counterintuitively, you're going for the truth, even a "no." A surfaced concern is one you can handle; a buried one ghosts you. Locking a true 10 on the program first means that when you reveal price, it's a logistics conversation, not a battle. Don't move to next steps until it's a true 9 or 10.

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19"If we talk tomorrow and you feel the same, we're processing payment?"

Feels pushy to pin them to "tomorrow" and say "payment" out loud.

Why we ask

You're pre-anchoring the close window to tomorrow — before you even ask to schedule — so the deal doesn't drift to "next week" and lose all momentum.

How it serves the prospect

It honors their need to sleep on it while protecting them from desire-fatigue, where a good decision quietly dies from delay.

How it advances the sale

"Processing payment" is concrete enough that a merely-polite prospect breaks and gives you the real concern now. And it isolates the objection: if "sleeping on it" is truly the only thing, you've set a real close for tomorrow, not a vague maybe.

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20"Money aside — you're 100% in?"

Feels like skipping past their real concern (the money).

Why we ask

The cardinal rule: handle uncertainty before logistics. You must confirm they're sold before you ever open the payment conversation — otherwise you're solving a money problem for someone who doesn't actually want it.

How it serves the prospect

It separates the two real questions — "do I want this?" and "can I afford this?" — so they don't use one to hide from the other. Cleaner thinking, better decision.

How it advances the sale

Once they say "yes, money aside I'm in," they've committed. Now the payment talk is just helping a sold buyer find a way — not convincing a skeptic. That's a totally different, much easier conversation.

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21Coaching the champion — the "wimp vs. leader" contrast

Feels theatrical, maybe even silly, to read both versions out loud.

Why we ask

Spouse/partner objections are won or lost after your call, not during it. If you let them walk into that conversation unprepared, they default to the wimpy version and the deal dies at home.

How it serves the prospect

You're handing them the words to have a hard but important conversation with their partner with conviction and respect — a genuinely useful life skill, not just a sales trick.

How it advances the sale

It makes them your champion in a 2-on-1 dynamic instead of a lone, mumbling messenger. And the contrast surfaces any lingering doubt: if they can't deliver the leader version, they're not 100% — so you handle that right now.

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22The 3 reasons it failed — method, support, or work ethic

Feels risky to bring up their past failure so directly.

Why we ask

A bad past experience is a scar they carry into your call. You don't argue with it — you diagnose it. Naming the three causes lets them self-identify what actually went wrong.

How it serves the prospect

It reframes a painful failure as a solvable, specific cause instead of "this whole category doesn't work." That's empowering — it means success is still on the table.

How it advances the sale

Whatever they name becomes your differentiation, in their words. Better method, real support, or a re-qualify on the work — they hand you the exact angle to prove you're different from what burned them.

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23"Why wouldn't this work for you?"

Feels confrontational to throw the question back at them.

Why we ask

After they commit to doing the work and asking for help, you hand them the burden of proof. They now have to argue against your track record and their own commitments — which they usually can't.

How it serves the prospect

It walks them through their own logic until they see the fear isn't grounded in anything real. You're not arguing — you're helping them out-think their own hesitation.

How it advances the sale

Two outcomes, both useful: they surface a real, specific objection you can handle — or they get stuck, which reveals it was nerves, and you pivot to the nerves play.

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24The research last-ditch — "Can I be honest with you?"

Feels confrontational, like you're calling them out.

Why we ask

"I need to do research" at the end of a call usually means "you didn't sell me" or "I won't say no to your face." Calling it out gently forces the truth into the open.

How it serves the prospect

It frees them from the awkward dance of a soft no. Most people are relieved to stop pretending and have a straight conversation.

How it advances the sale

You either surface the real objection and handle it, or you walk cleanly — instead of booking a fake follow-up that wastes both your time when they ghost. A clean no beats a fake yes.

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25"That's off the table" — the references policy

Feels rude to flatly refuse a reasonable-sounding request.

Why we ask

"Talk to a client" is usually a stall, not a real need. Framing it as policy (not your preference) neutralizes 80% of the pushback — they're hearing a rule, not arguing with you.

How it serves the prospect

You immediately redirect to something better and faster — case studies and recorded results you control — so they get the proof they actually want without waiting on someone's calendar.

How it advances the sale

The tie-down first ("if they validated everything, we're processing payment?") isolates whether this is the real objection. Said with confidence and an instant alternative, it kills the stall without you sounding defensive.

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26"What would you spend your time on, if not this?"

Feels like you're cornering them with their own words.

Why we ask

The "no time" objection is logically broken: they're on a call about lead gen because lead gen is their #1 constraint, and a CEO's time belongs on the #1 constraint. You're walking them through that.

How it serves the prospect

It exposes the trap they're in — "I'm too busy to fix the thing that would give me my time back." Seeing that clearly is what breaks the loop.

How it advances the sale

There's no honest answer that isn't "this." The question collapses the objection using premises they already agreed to, so it never feels like you pushing.

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27The Nerves play — naming it, then "Good."

Feels strange to label their emotion and then not comfort them.

Why we ask

When a prospect is stuck and can't name a concern, it's nerves — and nerves are highly closeable, but only once they're named. Giving the feeling a label turns a sales standoff into a coaching moment.

How it serves the prospect

It validates a real human feeling instead of fighting it with logic. "Good — those nerves mean it matters" respects them and reframes the fear as a signal, not a stop sign.

How it advances the sale

"Good" is a pattern interrupt — they expected reassurance, you gave validation. Delivered calm and low, it lets you offer the identity choice (give in to fear, or feel it and move) that converts at a very high rate. Tone is everything here.

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28"1 to 10 — and you can't say a 7. Why not a 3?"

Feels like you're putting them on the spot.

Why we ask

Banning "7" removes the cowardly middle and forces a real read. "Why not a 3?" makes them argue the positive case — selling themselves on why they're already an 8 or 9.

How it serves the prospect

It surfaces exactly what's missing for them, so you can address the real gap instead of guessing. They leave the call clearer on where they stand.

How it advances the sale

A high number followed by "why not a 3?" stacks their own reasons to buy. A low number tells you precisely what to resolve before you can close. Either way you get the truth and the next move.

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If a question still feels uncomfortable after reading its entry — that's normal at first. Run it in roleplay 20 times. Discomfort is just a skill you haven't built yet.

๐ŸŽฏ Coaching Corner

The Real Concerns — And Exactly What To Say

The actual things that trip students up on live calls — and the exact frames that fix them. Read it before your next call.

The Frame That Runs Everything: Push & Pull

You don't need their money. You're here to see if you can help. If you can't, you'll point them in the right direction — and mean it.

A great closer is in a constant dance of push and pull. Bad closers only push: a little nudge, wait, nudge harder. They never retreat because it scares them — they think they're talking themselves out of the sale. Retreating is what makes the sale. When you pull away, the prospect advances. When you chase, they back up.

So on these calls, almost try to disqualify them. "You're doing alright, you said you're comfy — so why are we even on this call?" Said with the right tone, that makes them sell you on why it's worth getting in the trenches with them. That's the whole game: they convince you, not the other way around.

Your job isn't to sell a product. It's to identify as many real problems as possible. If you got paid per problem you uncovered, how different would your calls look?

Discovery & Digging
"My discovery feels shallow / I run out of questions."

There are 50+ questions you could ask about current state alone. You're stopping at 4. You can't build a gap on a current state that's two inches deep — that's exactly why you struggle to create urgency later.

The fix is almost stupidly simple. Keep running these on every answer until it's bone-dry:

"What do you mean by that?"  ยท  "What does that look like?"  ยท  "What have you done to fix that?"  ยท  "And how'd that work out?"

You'll think you're out of questions after "$50k/month, 10 leads, closes 2" — then five more layers come out of nothing but "what do you mean by that?" Dig until there's genuinely nothing left, then move to future state.

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"Won't asking 'where are the biggest gaps?' open up problems that have nothing to do with what I sell?"

This is the #1 worry with that question. "I sell ads and lead generation — if I ask about their biggest gaps, they'll start talking about their sales team, their hiring, their cash flow… stuff I don't even do. Isn't that off-topic, or opening a can of worms I can't close?"

It's the exact opposite. Asking the wide-open question is what makes you good at this — for two reasons:

A. You never put your assumption on their pain. Because you sell ads, it's tempting to assume their problem is "not enough leads." But you don't actually know that yet. If you walk in assuming it, you'll pitch leads to someone whose real problem is something else — and you'll lose, because you solved a problem they didn't have. Letting them name the biggest gap means you diagnose what's actually wrong, not what you hoped was wrong. (Doctor, not salesman.)

B. The "other" problems tell you whether they're even a good fit — and what you should actually sell them. Every problem they name is useful data. It does one of three things: it becomes a new problem you can solve, it reveals the real constraint you should prioritize, or it surfaces a dealbreaker you're far better off knowing now than after they've paid. Watch how a "non-marketing" answer turns into gold:

They say: "Honestly, our sales team isn't the best."
You: "Got it — so if we turn on the faucet and flood you with qualified leads, but the team can't close them… what happens to all those leads?"
Now you've surfaced the real bottleneck. Either you set the expectation up front (leads only turn into money if someone closes them), or you've found a second problem you can help solve. What you did not do is blindly promise ad results to a business that can't close — which would've torched your results and your reputation.
They say: "We just can't find enough qualified contractors."
You: "What's preventing you from finding and keeping them? What have you tried so far?"
Their answer might reveal their #1 constraint isn't customer leads at all — it's hiring. So the right move could be a recruitment campaign (ads that attract contractors) instead of a customer lead-gen campaign. Same skill set, a completely different — and correct — offer. You only found that because you asked the wide question instead of assuming.

The principle: the biggest constraint in a business is rarely the one you assumed walking in. Find the real bottleneck first, then sell the thing that fixes that. This is exactly how you protect your win rate — you don't take on a client whose true problem you can't solve, and you don't promise lead-gen results when the real issue is closing or staffing. Opening up "all the problems" isn't a distraction. It's the whole point of discovery.

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"My questions aren't landing / the prospect won't open up."

Usually it's because your questions feel like questions but aren't actually diagnostic. Asking "what's motivating you to make more money?" early is fluffy. Asking about the business is what opens them up.

Lead with the numbers a doctor would need: revenue, average ticket, leads/month, jobs/month, close rate, current ad spend, how they generate leads, cost per lead, and what it costs them to acquire a customer. Most of these prospects don't even know their numbers — and that blank is part of the diagnosis. The silence when they can't answer does your selling for you.

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"It feels pushy to ask the deep, personal 'why.'"

It only feels pushy because you're framed wrong. Flip it. They have to sell you on why this matters. Here's the move, almost word for word:

"Can we be real for a sec? At the end of the day — myself included — we don't build businesses just to make more money. Money's cool, but it's what we get to do with it. So just so I can actually get on board with your vision and make sure I'm in alignment with it… what's that $100k a month really going to do for you, your family, your life? What makes it so important in the first place?"

When you frame it as "convince me it's worth getting in the trenches with you" and tie it to yourself, it stops being an interrogation. Framed that way, it becomes uncomfortable not to ask.

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"How do I sound natural and not telegraph what I'm doing?"

Never narrate the play. The second you say "I'm just gonna probe into your business and see where you're at and where you want to go," a sales wall slams up. You don't announce that you're digging — you just dig.

Cut every line that tells the prospect what you're about to do to them. Just ask the next question, warmly, like a curious human.

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"I'm following the script but still not connecting."

It's almost always tonality. Flatlined questions — "what's your monthly revenue, how long you been there" — make it feel like you don't care, and you get shallow answers back. Use uptones. Sound genuinely interested. Even pretend to care if you have to (you should actually care).

People buy from people. If you don't vibe with someone on a call, you're probably not closing them — the script can't save bad energy. And it's a good script: it's never the script, it's how you deliver it.

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Temp Check & Closing
"People give me a fake 10, then don't close."

Two fixes. First, give them a reason to be brutally honest — don't just ask for a number. Second, never proceed past the temp check without a true 10. Use the push-away:

"Alignment matters a lot to me. This is four months of your life and we're going to be in the trenches to deliver a big outcome. So I need you 100% confident this is the path. If I can't get you to a 10, that's totally fine — but then I don't even want you to consider doing this. Is that fair?"

Then: "So what's missing to get you to a 10?" Handle it, and re-ask the number. Done right, 90% of calls give you a 9 or 10 right out of the gate — because you nailed pain extraction and tied the pitch to their specific pains. If you're getting below 7.5, the miss happened back in discovery or the pitch, not here.

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"They said a 10, then went cold and started raising doubts."

Call the contradiction out — gently. Humans hate contradicting themselves, and it forces the real concern into the open:

"Help me understand — I'm a little confused. Before, you said you were a 10 because you believed this would grow your business. Now you're saying you're not sure it'll happen. What changed?"

If they're wishy-washy and won't look at you, drop your tone and body language, slow down: "Hey — what's going on? Because everything you're saying, we handle it, you agree, then you throw something else out. Do you actually want to do this? Because if not, that's totally fine — just tell me now instead of going in circles."

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"They're impatient — 'I'm an 8, just tell me the price.' It feels like I'm withholding / being salesy."

This is the spot that feels the most uncomfortable for a new closer, because holding the price can come across as cagey if you do it wrong. The fix isn't to cave, and isn't to robotically stonewall — it's to be transparent about why.

Why we hold it: the price is meaningless if they're not confident the program is right for them. An "8" means there are 2 points of real doubt. If you drop the number into that doubt, the price becomes the scapegoat — they'll say "it's too expensive" when the actual problem is they weren't fully sold. Clear the doubt first and the exact same price lands clean. None of the money matters if they don't believe in the program to begin with.

What to say (relaxed and honest, never defensive):

"Totally fair, and I'm honestly not dodging it — I'll give you the exact number in one sec, promise. The only reason I haven't yet is the price genuinely doesn't matter if you're not sure this is the right move for you. I'd never want you putting money into something you're only an 8 on. So real quick — what are those 2 points? What's the hesitation? Then I'll lay it all out."

Delivered with a calm, almost doing-them-a-favor tone, this lands as honesty, not a stall. Most people respect it and hand you the 2 points — which is exactly what you needed to close them.

Don't die on the hill. If they've heard your reason and still insist on the number, give it — refusing a second time is what actually feels salesy and breaks trust. Then immediately loop back: "Cool, now that you've got that — what was the hesitation keeping you from a 10?" You answered them and kept the buy-in conversation alive. The goal is the close, not winning a standoff over when the price gets said.

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"I get hit with 'I don't have the money' at the end."

That's because you waited too long to talk money. The edge: open the wallet up front, in discovery, while the walls are still down. Frame it as help, not a sale:

"Honestly, my job here isn't to sell you — I don't need your money. My job is to point you in the right direction, whether that's with us or not. To do that I need to understand your financial picture: how much liquid is in the account, what your personal finances look like. Because if you've got cash and room on a card, I'll point you one way. If rent's due and you're behind, I'm not about to tell you to spend $10k on ads. Cool?"

Nobody refuses that. Then if "I don't have the money" still shows up at the close, you isolate it: "Just so I can help — is it that you literally don't have the cash or means right now? Or is it more that you do, and it's just scary to think about pulling the trigger? Because that's completely acceptable — what's the real thing we're facing?" Almost every time, it's fear, not logistics. Then you handle the fear.

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"When do I skip ahead / break from the script?"

Default answer: don't skip the seven doors. The only way someone buys is if you're clear on all of them — pain, solution, cost, doubt, cost of inaction, desire, support. Only skip a door if it already got answered as a byproduct.

The one exception — the direct, ready buyer. If a prospect is obviously sold and direct, make the audible. Think of it this way: if there's an obstacle in the road, you don't ask "should I swerve?" — you commit. Get your core qualifying numbers, then meet them where they are:

"Love it — how soon are you looking to move forward? Ready to pull the trigger right now? Great, grab a pen, here's what it looks like… it's $10k. Visa or Mastercard, what makes the most sense?"

What you do not do is ask a confusing question that re-opens a closed buyer — something like "are you in a buying mood or a discovering mood?" can kill a prospect who was ready to go. Match their directness.

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Objections & Reframes
"Prospect asks: why not just keep doing what's already working?"

Don't argue whether ads work. Reframe the whole question with More / Better / New, and make them explain it:

"The question isn't whether Meta works — it's whether this is the right thing for you to focus your time on right now. So why not just do more of what's already working? Why are we even talking about something new?"

Use the water analogy when they're chasing a shiny new channel: "It's like saying you're thirsty and want to be more hydrated — but instead of drinking more water, you go looking for something different. Bro… just drink more water." Then run the live ROI math: "You spend $1k to get a client worth $20k. So for every $1 you put in, you make $20. Would you be happy spending $1 to make $10? Then why aren't we pouring more into the thing already returning 20x?" There's always a reason they're not — and pulling that out is the pain.

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"What makes you different from every other marketing company?"

Don't get defensive and start listing features. Turn it into a question and disarm honestly:

"Who's everyone else? Who are you referring to specifically? — Honestly, I can't tell you what makes us different from them, because I haven't been in those other programs. Did you have a bad experience with someone in the past?"

That bridges straight into your "have you tried to get help with this before?" section and pulls all the pain through clean questions instead of you bragging.

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"How do I tell fear apart from a real objection?"

Fear is normal and is never a reason not to move forward. Nervousness on a big decision is healthy — name it and walk through it. Doubt is different: it means something's genuinely unresolved — they're missing info, or got burned before. Doubt should be pre-overcome by retreating and extracting it until they "doubt their own doubt."

"If there's real doubt this'll work — like we're missing something — I don't want you to do it, and let's dig into that. But if it's just fear and you're actually confident in the plan? Fear shouldn't be the reason we don't move forward. Fear's normal."
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"How do I handle their emotions without sounding fake?"

Most closers do the fake version: "100%, totally feel you, dude — but what about…" and dive into the objection. The prospect can tell you weren't listening. Instead, over-validate first, handle second.

"Dude, I totally understand — honestly I'd be weirded out if you didn't feel that way. This is part of the process, and I appreciate you being transparent. Given what you've been through, I'd feel exactly the same."

Every emotion is valid — it doesn't matter whether the thing they're worried about is even true. Reaffirm it 100%, then move into the objection. Your own story is rocket fuel here: "I remember sitting where you are, feeling the exact same way."

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"The prospect says 'I know what you're doing.'"

Love it — it's easy to handle. Retreat hard:

"Cool — what am I doing, man? … Honestly? I'm not sure you even need us. I don't think anyone really needs us. We help a lot of people and get insane results, but I genuinely don't know if this is what you need — that's what I'm trying to figure out. If you're good where you're at, I'll tell you to keep doing what you're doing. So — you've been trained on sales, you've been in other programs… why are we here, then? Something's not working that those didn't solve."

And you're right back in the script. You retreated, they advanced. That's the dance.

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"The prospect pushed me down ('seems like you've never done this')."

Whatever you do, don't push yourself down further. The mistake is answering with something like "well, we all gotta start somewhere" — which lowers your own frame of authority, and from there you can't close. When they push you down, you calmly climb back up. You don't apologize for being new; you hold the frame that you know exactly how to get them the outcome.

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Mindset

Before You Panic — Read This

If sales is kicking your butt right now, hear this clearly: do not let your emotions dictate your actions. The first couple months — when it's not clicking, when you can't get a close, when your morale is tanked — that is the hardest part, and it is part of the process. Everyone in here went through it — every single person who can now close, no exceptions.

You have two options. Succumb to it, retreat to word-of-mouth and referrals, and wonder why nothing changes. Or keep hammering the craft, push through the stress, and develop the skill — because that's the one thing you have to get good at, and it's the exact thing most people avoid. The difficult calls are where you actually learn; the easy ones teach you nothing. When you get a brutal call, get excited — "if you can close a call like that, you can close anybody."

How it actually clicks: reps plus positive reinforcement. Every time you ask a question and see the lightbulb go off, make a mental note — that's the rep that ingrains the skill. And feed your own Fathom calls back through analysis against this script and the NEPQ Black Book; two months of struggling closers have turned three losing calls into three closes the next day by fixing just the two or three things that actually move the needle.

Get a grip on the emotions, do the reps, and it stops being a grind — it turns into a game. Then you just start printing.


Cinemarketer internal sales training. Drill these in roleplay until they're second nature.